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? should entitlement reform be part of fiscal cliff talks? log on to gerriwillis.com, vote on the right hand side of the screen, and we'll share the results. departments paint grover as the villain for why there's no deal. does he deserve the blame? american enterprise institute and political science, norm, i understand that you blame grover front and center. he's the man carrying a pitch fork tonight. >> well, i blame grover, among others, for a lot of the tribalism we've had in the last few years, but it's also the case. if you look at the simpson-bowles report, the rivlin-dmin economy report, the gang of six and crapo and johanns, all say we need a deal that includes $4 trillion in debt reduction over ten years, and about a third of it coming from renues. you got revenues at 15% or just over that of gdp, and spending at 24%, and you got to bring the spending down, but you got to bring revenues up. frankly, we're not going to have a deal. gerri: it's the object of debate, debated every night here. >> yeah. gerri: i was looking at your bio, and back in 2006, you wrote a book called "ho
. >>> rejected. the gop snubs the white house's opening offer in fiscal cliff talks. >>> upgraded palestine celebrates a new status despite stiff american opposition. >>> rich and now famous. we know the identity of one of those lucky power ball jackpot winners. >> that's good news. >> can't wait to meet that person. >> good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans. it's friday. >> happy friday. john berman is hosting "starting point" at 7:00. the middle east is getting ugly. insult and finger pointing in the fiscal cliff debate. tax rates spike and spending slashed. congress is breaking for the holidays in two weeks. it could send the economy spinning in directions. $1.6 trillion in tax hikes. he will travel to pennsylvania to sell it to you. republicans aren't buying it. listen to house speaker, john boehner. >> despite the claims the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. >> democrats are firing right back at boehner. harry reid getting a little personal. >> i don't understand his brain, so you should ask him
if the fiscal cliff talks goes down what impact will that go on consumer spending. >> if our tax go up and our expenses go up, then we have less discretionary income and 70% of the u.s. economy is driven by the consumers, by us. so that is really important that we absolutely focus on economic growth and don't penalize the consumers going forward. >> so you're saying it would have an impact on your business? >> i think it absolutely would because if our discretionary income is going to be less and we're paying more tax we will have less discretionary income for things like everything. including aublings. >> so what kind of contingency plan is ford making in case we do go over the cliff? >> well, our plan has always been to match our production to the real demand. and we have a very flexible manufacturing system. so you know, if we didn't get this solved and we didn't have as many sales, we would lower our production to meet that real demand like we have in the past. >> looking to the new year, the business environment, consumer sentiment, how are things shaping up for ford? >> well, right now i
the details of the president's opening gambit in the fiscal cliff talk. he wants a $1.6rillion tax increase, 50 billion and stimulus spending. and the white house has the ability to raise the debt ceiling without congressional approval. a very big deal for folks there. today, the president is out there, trying to drum up support among the public. not in washington or with congress or the senate. here is what he had to say. >> it is not acceptable to me, and i do not think it is acceptable to you for a handful of republicans in congress will middle-class tax cuts hostage simply because they don't want tax rates on upper income folks go up. gerri: it sounds like the same old, same old. the president has been making the sa comments again. is this any way to sell a plan? >> there really is not. the president is not being serious about this. the fact that the president is out there campaigning on this rather than negotiating, it means that those that are negotiating, such as secretary geithner, they probably don't feel bound by what the president is saying. th is the fit gammons and certainly no
fiscal cliff that people are talking about? what about the danger of another recession, an economic slowdown? automakers are saying that they are prepared for that because they've got a better mix of cars this time. and they are pushing full bore ahead with new technology. we spoke with sprint, which is introducing a package to automakers that will actually turn your car into a wireless hot spot. enabling passengers to surf the internet. enabling you if your teenager is driving the car to make sure no one is texting while they're driving. they're going full steam ahead. let's listen. >> so imagine, if you will, you're driving the family to the summer vacation home. right? your wife could be paying bills via her laptop or tablet in the front seat. your kids could be youtubing or facebooking in the back seat, downloading a movie off netflix. everyone is happy including the driver not having to stop every 15 minutes to go to the bathroom. the kids are focused on what they want to do so the entire consumer experience in the vehicle is enhanced. >> and it's not all about practicality. ne
as part of a fiscal cliff deal. it's on the table. okay? we're talking about that coming up at the top of the hour, one of our new at 10 stories. all right, back to nicole, research in motion, all right, all over the place these days, but today they're up and i want to know why. >> a buy rating for goldman sachs equals up arrow and this is as simple as wall street gets. you've got positive comments right now on blackberry, for research in motion and the blackberry 10 coming out on january 30th, goldman sachs is saying that the first time in three years the street's estimates are just too low for forth coming device and the risk rewards looks really good here and it depends if this device is a good one and that's why you see, and the price target, they have a new price target, stuart, $16 up from $9 and they see upside potential. stuart: we'll see, and i have your seven early movers for you, the women's apparel maker cold water creek took in more than expected and that stock is up. oh, 11%. disappointing profits from lazy boy and semtech is up big. and aeropostale on the holiday season,
as leverage. so if they lost this first round to fiscal cliff talks they can say we want this and this. so what the administration is going to do is one of two things. insist any fiscal cliff deal includes a raising of the debt ceiling or they're going to say, we want the power to raise the debt ceiling. you know, i think that might actually end up being a big sticking point of the negotiation. >> understandably they see it as the biggest point of leverage. >> it also seems to me the tone is moving in the wrong direction. after the -- right after the election, there was a little bit of recrimination, a little like well, boehner sounded getting squishy and what's happened over the succession of weeks since then, as he's meeting with the caucus, there's a hardening. in terms of -- >> or a disbelief -- a disbelief -- >> comes out and says stuff like that, you read some of the local papers, these people rshs it. >> are telling their local paper we're in a bad negotiation position here. >> the problem is, had he's probably a guy that's going to -- boehner will still be dealing with after januar
are our troops dying and yet we just seem to go on and on talking about the fiscal cliff? well, i know that's important. mr. speaker, it is time for congress to realize that we are having young men and women to die in afghanistan for a failed policy that will not change one thing. mr. speaker, before closing, i make reference to this poster of a young american in a casket being carried by his colleagues to be buried. please, american people, put pressure on congress to bring our troops home now and not wait until december, 2014. i ask god to please bless our men and women in uniform, to please bless the loved ones who lost those in iraq and afghanistan. please, god, help get our troops home now and not later. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the chair recognizing the gentleman from oregon, mr. blumenauer, for five minutes. mr. blumenauer: mr. speaker, mitt romney weathered a storm of criticism late in the campaign after hurricane sandy for his earlier comments about privatizing fema and turning responsibility back to state and local governments. but during an era of fiscal restra
: as the country fast approaches the fiscal cliff, the two sides are talking past each other. democrats say they've laid down their marker hiking tax rates on wealthier americans. and it's up to republicans to propose specific spending cuts they want to entitlement programs. however, republicans say they've offered a concession putting revenue on the table. and they say it's now up to the president and his fellow democrats to feel some pain and propose cuts in medicare and medicaid. confu confusing? we asked senate majority leader harry reid. where's the disconnect? >> i don't understand his brain. so you should ask him, okay. >> from capitol hill to the white house, democrats say the major hurdle remains, the tax issue, whether republicans will agree not just to revenue but to raising tax rates. republicans as you will not be surprised have made clear so far that is a no-go. so what's next? well, a top republican aide told me they look forward to hearing from the white house. a top democratic aide saying, our door is open. read that, wolf, as a standstill. >> they've waited a few weeks before a
. headline driven. but a good session on the back of that optimism for fiscal cliff talk. all except this glaring spot of red. shanghai composite finishing lower for yet another session. it keeps falling further and further. doesn't seem that there is anything that policymakers or investors can do to lift sentiment in this market. different story in the hang seng, rebounding up about 1%. so a tale of two very different markets. hang seng up nearly 20 percent year to date. if you're playing china in both markets, very, very different views. the kospi is up 1.2%. asx 200 up 0.7%. major miners in focus. bhp and ceo coming out with comments that we'll talk about later. we have the japanese market continuing their rally. it's been quite the rally over the last few week. topex you might want to watch. goldman sachs year's target up by some 8%. there is still up side of about 20%. you could see some gains if they are correct. but the knee he kay 225 recouping losses from yesterday to continue on that rally. up 1%. sharp was in focus today on talks that they may be signing some investment de
. always talking about the fiscal cliff. i will say good-bye. no fiscal cliff. thank you, gary. pressure. melissa: the problem with online shopping used to be you had to wait in order to get what you ordered but not anymore. retailers are racing to keep up with the new trend of instant gratification shopping with same die delivery. amazon started it. now ebay, google even wal-mart are doing it. they battle who can do it faster and cheapest they only offer same day delivery in selected cities using courier companies like ups -pthe problem with economics of ame day delivery are challenging. analysts estimate the services are money-losers at least for now. kind of makes sense. almost like the airlines of the ones one guy does something everybody else has to do it to compete. lori: nuclear arms race. if you disarmed you would be on equal playing field. melissa: we get used to it and spoiled. to a certain extent you don't know somebody is charging more for the product but you want it that same day. like free same day shipping. >> free shipping with holiday gifts ii melissa: love it. lori: yo
reporters that he is optimistic about the overall fiscal cliff talks, martha. martha: we'll see. the way they speak publicly there doesn't seem to be a lot of budging on either side. we know there were pretty high profile white house meetings, but those conversations, not happening publicly right now, but are they going on behind closed doors do we think? >> reporter: we know president obama and speaker john boehner had a phone conversation last night. a source familiar with the call said it lasted more than 15 minutes. that's critical because think deal will need to be carried by the two of them, bottom line democratic leaders here on the hill will go along with the president's plan, speaker boehner needs to be able to sell it in the house, martha. martha: there was a report that there was a curt, tense conversation. now we are learning that it went on as you said, mike for 15 minutes and the men had quite a bit to talk about. we'll see where it goes. thank you, mike. >> reporter: thank you, martha. bill: the state of arizona just announcing it will not create a state insurance exchange
% today. connell: our big question today, should the fiscal cliff talks be televised so we can see the whole thing? neil cavuto is coming in. grover norquist made this suggestion over the weekend. we are not sure whether it is a good idea. lori: it is televised enough. the dow off 23. flirting with 13,000. verisign, green mountain coffee, seeing green. we will be back right after this. ♪ can i help you? i heard you guys can ship ground for less thn e ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to ge a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot? [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ound shipping at fedex office. lori: put it on tv. grover norquist saying the president should go into a room with c-span cameras present. connell: neil cavuto joins us now. what do you think of this idea of putting it on television? neil: i do not think it is a good idea. this would really heighten it a little more. i think grover's point about how they should be held accountable and everyone should see how they come to th
's the way it will be for much of december, unless there's a huge headline on the fiscal cliff talks. back with the mayor of phoenix trying to lure people away from california. stuart: businesses in california fleeing that state, tax rates, cost of doing business just too much. one place they are going to phoenix, arizona. here's why, according to the phoenix economic council, operating costs are 40% lower than in california. arizona so attractive to business that in the last eight years more than 60 california companies have relocated there. phoenix mayor greg stanton joins us right now. your honor, welcome to the show. good to have you with us. >> great to be on, thanks for having me. stuart: okay, now, you have got a great climate, understand that. your costs are 40% lower, but i want to know, did you prize those california companies over to you by giving them huge tax breaks? >> we want to make sure in arizona that we are as competitive as possible. stuart: is that a yes? programs, tax incentives, but look, a company is not going to move, a company is not going to expand in arizona jus
are going to be talking about the fiscal cliff, the statements the house speaker made about being a stalemate and what the president said during his trip to a toy factory in pennsylvania. here are the numbers. you can also reach out to us by e-mail and twitter and facebook, all of the social media as. on twitter the addresses @cspanwj, facebook.com/cspan. more from the article by jake sherman with the headline " fiscal cliff." he writes -- let's go to the phones. the first call comes from debbie in flint, mich. on the line for democrats. caller: i think they need to pass a law that these guys did not get paid. if i go to work and did not do my job, they will not pay me. they have not done their jobs in the years. they need to listen to the american people. we picked barack obama up for a reason because we like his policies. they need to get a clue. they are already struggling and having a hard time. if they do not get a clue, they will not be back there. host: republicans say the president and democrats are not making any good-faith offers, the same thing democrats say about repub
when he talks to julia boorstin and live coverage of the president with remarks on the fiscal cliff before the business roundtable. can he convince corporate leaders he has the right solution for avoiding the fiscal cliff. one more look at futures this morning on a wednesday. look like open 28. "squawk on the street" is back in a minute. >> there's a look at citi. the news on the bank this morning cutting 11,000 jobs. still working on a percentage of what that is on the overall workforce. they think it will be a pretax charge of about a billion dollars. savings of 900 million in 2013. rising to about 1.1 billion in 2014. we'll keep an eye on that name. >> very big. >> yeah. shares of pandora taking a hit in premarket trade. online music service beat expectations with third quarter results. ceo joe kennedy says pandora's advertisers are displaying caution about spending because of the fiscal cliff. he'll be on "squawk on the street" at 11:40 eastern time. and netflix paying for exclusive rights to stream disney movies. a lot of happenings moving stocks in a big way. with pandora, ana
the scenes of the talks to avoid the fiscal cliff. it seems the framework for a deal actually might be taking shape. if so, what will it look like? david drucker has been nosing around a little bit. the associate politics editor at "roll call." when you hear senators and speaker of the house come out and talk it doesn't sound like they're all that close, david. are you optimistic? >> well i'm sort of on the fence here, jon. whenever you hear members of congress talk about any kind of fiscal cliff deal you have to approach it with a sort of believe everything and believe nothing attitude. i think that everybody wants to avoid having taxes go up for all americans as of january 1st but everybody has a price for that. and it, to me, it's about whether or not both sides are looking for a win-win deal, meaning, my opponent wins and i win. or whether both sides or one of the sides are looking for a deal where only i win and you lose and on top of all of that then we have to look at what do they want to include in any sort of deal? are we going to address entitlement reform? are we going to cut spend
data. >> back to you. >> thank you very much. >>> as talks over the fiscal cliff continue, you will want to hear what republican senator rand paul had to say about deficit reductions and the controversial norquist tax pledge. >>> also ahead -- >> still to come, with the fiscal cliff getting closer. >> if i was involved in a negotiation like that and everybody was purporting to be where they are, i would say an agreement was reachable. >> former centr [ male announcer ] how do you trade? with scottrader streaming quotes, any way you want. fully customize it for your trading process -- from thought to trade, on every screen. and all in real time. which makes it just like having your own trading floor, right at your fingertips. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. try our easy-to-use scottrader streaming quotes. it's another reason more investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. [ male announcer ] the way it moves. the way it cleans. everything about the oral-b power brush is simply revolutionary. oral-b power brushes oscillate, rotate and even
at the condition dee center. let's talk about this, the end of this month, that's thinking fiscal cliff we've been talking about. and yesterday on the chat shows, it was very clear both sides are at logger heads. this on the news that at the conclusion of last week, the president's team unveiled something that was so, according to the republicans, unserious, it flabbergasted the speaker of the house, john boehner. though tim geithner went out yesterday and said, that plan that we're pushing? it's a good one. here he is. >> we think that's a very good set of proposals. we think that's what's good fort economy. if they've got different suggestions, they want to go further in some areas, they should lay it out to us. >> i think we're going over the cliff. it's pretty clear to me they've made a political calculation. this offer doesn't remotely deal with entitlement reform in a we to save medicare and medicaid and social security from imminent bankruptcy. it raises $1.6 trillion on job creators that will destroy the economy and there are no spending controls. i'm serious about revenue. you can limit d
'll head to the hill to talk to members from both sides about the fiscal cliff clash. plus, sharp divisions at the united nations. the world defies the u.s. in a historic vote for palestinians. and huge crowds are gathering in tahrir square after egypt approved a controversial new draft constitution. it's a move that's likely to inflame the political crisis there. we're live in cairo with what it all means for the region. first, a look ahead at the president's schedule. he is in pennsylvania at the toy factory talking fiscal cliff. you're watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc. [ emily jo ] derrell comes into starbucks with his wife, danielle, almost every weekend. derrell hasn't been able to visit his mom back east in a long time. [ shirley ] things are sometimes a little tight around the house. i wasn't able to go to the wedding. [ emily jo ] since derrell couldn't get home, we decided to bring home to him and then just gave him a little bit of help finding his way. ♪ [ laughs ] [ applause ] i love you. i love you, too. side by side so you get the same coverage, often for less. that
about the fiscal cliff. >>> that cliff was definitely the topic at other meetings in washington. timothy geithner met with congressional leader but did not reach any agreement. if no action is taken by december 31, $650 billion in cuts to pentagon and domestic programs and tax increases will automaticly go into effect. republicans are complaining. democrats are not playing fair. >> democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. secondly, no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. this is not a game. >> carolyn: joe biden went christmas shopping in the capitol at a discount store. he strolled into costco and buying apple pie. he told reporters falling o-cliff klif is not an option. >> look around here. consumer confidence is growing. last thing we need to do is dash that now by being unable to extend middle-class tax cuts. >> carolyn: costco is hedging. they announced they will pay $3 billion dividend before the end of the year. that will save share hold ears lot of money. >> 138 countries voted to grant t
making his case for action on the fiscal cliff today in pennsylvania. we'll talk to republican congressman jim gerlach from that state about the trip and what needs to happen to get a deal done. >> one thing is for sure, fiscal cliff comments from washington have been having an impact. >> i would hope our friends on the other side can turn off the campaign. >> we could have prevented this crisis months ago. by just simply adopting what passed in the senate. >> president obama is meeting with high profile chief executive officers today to talk about country's fiscal issues. >> we're here to support doing the right thing and putting america back to work. >> we don't legislate but we know the consequences of a failure to reach an agreement. >> only way democracy works is through compromise at the end of the day. >> i'm optimistic we'll continue to work together. >> our ultimate goal is an agreement that gets long-term deficit under control in a way that is fair and balanced. >> stocks trade on fiscal cliff comments from president obama and john boehner. >> no substantive progress
of about $1.2 trillion. and that needs to be remembered when we're talking about the fiscal cliff. now, women really are, in fact, bearing the primary burden of all of these cuts. and so what we're saying is, let's don't engage in these cuts. let's have an aggressive jobs policy, put people to work, bring more money into the federal treasury, and lower the deficit that way. and, obviously, tax the millionaires and billionaires fairly for the first time in 30 years. >> right. >> so, terry, aggressive jobs program. great. that's the third way. president obama submitted to congress the american jobs act last september. so are you suggesting -- are you suggesting that that bill be passed? are you suggesting that it be reworked, junked and recreated? the second part of that question is, what are you going to do? what is now going to do to ensure that it gets passed? >> i would really much rather representative john connier's jobs bill be passed. it's much more aggressive. january ja cow ski also has a wonderful jobs bill. president obama's is much more modst. but it does lead us beginning i
is for them to say let's do this. people are talking about the fiscal cliff on january 16789 businesses have to start making decisions now projecting the environment they will be in on january 1. let's give those businesses the service, what they deserve and their employees bypassing this middle class income tax cut now. >> i'd just like to add that the chairman and assistant leader part pants in any number of these budget discussions, that, that or the other one. there were several of them. when they went to that table as representatives of the house democrats, they had no instruction except to reach agreement. they shared the values of our caucus but the over riding value was we had to get the job done for the american people. the only thing i said i wanted to see was jobs and economic growth would be at the centerpiece of the discussions and then whatever decisions we would make about investments or cutting them revenue or raising them would center around how we create jobs. that is the way we are going to reduce the deficit by creating jobs. and every step of the way, every time we came
the fiscal cliff anymore you might throw yourself off a cliff. here goes the republican again. they decided we'll go with the transition again. >> without spending cuts and entitlement reforce it's impossible oh address the fiscal crisis. >> cenk: we're busting their ass up today. i'm going to show you what they said before the election and what they said after. you'll love that. >> here come the people, man strikes and more strikes. now, fast food workers in new york starting to strike. >> i've been working at mcdonald's for 10 months right now. >> i've been working at wendy's for a year and two months now. >> cenk: i'm going to show you how much they're getting screwed. you want to talk about surprising news? here comes big foot! >> i was a skeptic. i did not believe these things exited at pull. they live right under our noses and we were never able to get proof of this until now. >> cenk: is it real? there's some real evidence. we'll talk about it on the show. in the end, of course, the did you meanest republican in the country within the show. who is it? gomer! you're going to love his
along with the talking point of fiscal cliff happens you must do the republican approach of cutting medicare and social security and not raise taxes on a the rich. >> or poor rich, and they're not poor. >> today john boehner named candace miller to head the house administration committee. candace miller was not even on the committee in the first place. dan lundgren lost, who was chairman of the committee. i think it's worth bear mentioning. >> i love that they put her on the committee so they could name her chairman. a little bit of panic. now when we come back, speaking of panic, this is what you should panic over. forget the fiscal cliff. the real problem is the climate chef. >> i love bill o'reilly. i'm proud to be an american, but i saw this movie chasing i.c.e. today, and it has changed me not only about global warming but as a person. >> cenk: wow, that's not even the elbow of the day. you'll be shocked to find out it's not a republican. ice breakers mints. break the ice. question: why are ice breakers mints called mints? answer in a moment. >> a second pounding storm slams th
. thanks, peter. we also have news coming up on republican plans to avert the fiscal cliff. we're going to be talking about that, but first let's get to today's data download. stocks unable to hold on to early gains with the dow and s&p snapping a three-session winning streak. the blue chip average crossed the unchanged line 23 times before finally dipping into negativer territory. materials and industrials were today's worst performers while telecom was the only one of the s&p sectors to post any kind of gains. u.s. construction spending seeing a nice bump in october, the commerce department reporting spending rose 1.4% last month. this was well above what was expected. the analysts said it was going to bump .5%. private construction, spending rose 1.6% while spending on public projects rose .8%. and the u.s. manufacturing sector slipping into contraction last month. we got good news/bad news. falling to its lowest level in nearly three and a half years. the ism manufacturing index cropped to 49.5 in november from 53.7 in october, a reading below 50 indicates contraction. not necessari
that treats its workers right. i'll talk costco and fiscal cliff with steve greenhouse of "the new york times." >>> plus hostess executives tank their company and cost the people their jobs. so why are they still demanding millions of dollars in bonuses? >>> and we'll tell you how senator john mccain fits in with congressman louie gohmert's latest conspiracy theory. >> this administration sent planes and bombs and support to oust gadhafi so al qaeda and the muslim brotherhood could take over libya. >>> good to have you with us tonight, folks. republicans are walking tall in public but hanging their heads behind closed doors. john boehner struck a defiant tone during a news conference today. he blamed the president and democrats for stalling negotiations on a debt deal. >> despite the claims that the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. and secondly, no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. >> tough talk. it's also completely divorced from reality. right b
and serious significant amount of money. >> this weekend you can talk about tom coburn above the fiscal cliff and the republican party in "in the." on c-span 2. >> his comments, the same day timothy geithner made the rounds on capitol hill, visiting with house and senate leaders, this is 10 minutes. >> the president has warned us about going over the fiscal cliff. his actions have not matched his public statements. members of his own party some quite comfortable with the sending his party over the fiscal cliff. two 6 ago had a comfortable conversation and the white house. i would say two thanks. despite declines the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have it to its various a barrel spending cuts. secondly, no progress has been made in the talks over the last a of weeks. this is not a game. jobs are on the line. the american economy is on the line. this is a moment for american leadership. it is the way ticket it done until washington. a mature0 lead and a had a meeting with his secretary. it was frank and d -- it was frank and direct. we saw to find out what the president i
guest in studio talking about the fiscal cliff and other political news from washington, d.c. yesterday, a historic luncheon at the whitehouse. >> peter: we are not serving turkey chili. we put up a picture of obama and romney in the oval. it's about as close as romney will ever get to that desk. we have it up on facebook for a caption contest. share yours. we will share some of the best ones on the air. facebook.com. >> we are just getting started. >> just getting started. nothing yet. we will let you know here soon some of the captions we get >> bill: go wild. be wicked. peter: have fun with it >> bill: i hope he rubbed it in a little bit. you thought you were going to win. >> do you want to have a seat in this chair? just kidding. >> bill: i. >> i am wondering if he was like, barack, can i have a seat? i hope he at least asked. i am not saying obama should have let him. >> bill: i doubt that he asked. >> i think the president would be thanks for coming down. we appreciate you a well-fought. >> bill: the president unlike the three
for campaign style events on the fiscal cliff. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. so right now all eyes are on the white house. the country doesn't need a victory lap. it needs leadership. >> speaker boehner said the president needs to get serious about what spending cuts he's willing to make. but that was news to senate majority leader harry reid. >> he says that democrats have got to get serious about cuts, spending cuts. where is the disconnect then? >> i don't understand his brain, so you should ask him, okay? >> he's not alone. all this comes as treasury secretary tim geithner held separate meetings today with boehner, reid, nancy pelosi, and mitch mcconnell, and over at the white house spokesman jay carney said the debt ceiling should not be a pawn in any kind of fiscal gamesmanship. >> asking for a -- that a political price be paid in order for congress to do its job to ensure that the united states of america pays its bills and does not default for the first time in its history is deeply irresponsible.
his brain, unquote. >>> when those talks over the fiscal cliff seem to be heading towards a stalemate but do the capitol hill theatrics tell the whole story? here's thousand politico summed it up, listen to top democrats and republicans talk on camera and it sounds like they could not be further apart. but behind the scenes top officials who have been involved in the talks for many months say the contours of the deal are starting to take shape. well, joining me are jason johnson a political professor, t and a republican strategist ron bonjene, ron, let's start with you, both sides know they'll have to make a deal. one congressman says to get it there has to look like this was fighting this way it's kind of like managing the public's expectati expectations, oh, we didn't give anything, oh, we didn't either. is this rhetoric all just for the show of it? >> part of it is and part of it isn't. part of it is, you know, both sides have to stake out their territory, in any negotiation, you know, you have to show what you want, most of what you want first and then you start really negotiating
. we're talking about the so called "fiscal cliff" and our cameras have been covering all the events here in washington as both sides tried to negotiate their argument with. if you go to our web site, c- span.org, we have a special web pages at a side on the fiscal cliff and you can also send in your tweets. we will go to payton next in london, kentucky, a democrat. caller: thank you. i am one of the original baby boomers. i live in one of the poorest areas in the country, which is also heavily republican area of the country. i have always felt [indiscernible]. host: we are losing you. caller: this constant living curtailment from the republicans is a shameful way to protect the rich. host: we will leave it there. guest: he's right. our previous caller talked about he and his wife with a total income of $14,000 a year on social security, so he's right. he's not throwing money around. if you start to limit the cost of living to keep up with expenses, such as higher gas, higher rents, higher medical care,, and that makes it pretty tough. host: what are democrats willing to compromise o
approaches a fiscal cliff, and the immediate y media in his corn again. >> the new york times gets caught 40 questionable items about the conflicts in the middle east. and a british judge releases his report on the phone hacking scandal in the country and how did the media here react. and jay leno sees the light. >> this is very dangerous for the white house if they should start asking real questions. >> jon: on the panel this week, writer and fox news contributor judy miller. syndicated columnist, cal thomas. jim pinkerton, contributor. and kirsten powers. >> jon: i'm jon scott, fox news watch is on right now. ambassador susan rice asked for a face-to-face meeting with some of her most focal critics to make things better. the meeting took place and appears to have made things worse. >> rice herself asked for the meeting, but the effort to smooth things over didn't exactly work. >> for the first time she acknowledged her comments were wrong. >> susan rice has been depi depicted from everything as a thrown under the bus sacraficial lamb to a willing political accomplice. >> and ambassador sus
coming to a fiscal cliff. this just hours after she spoke at a women's dinner here is what she had to say. >> we need to grow our mobile expertise really quickly. one of the things we concluded is that yes, we need to hire one by one, won't it be great if we got shrugs of people that were a team, already knew how to work together? so we've been looking at aqua hires, we've done our first one. >> in addition, myer says yahoo will possibly look to partnership was other companies. more bad news on the hewlett-packard front. deals with the falout with autonomy write down, moody's cut the ratings today, three level as above junction status. moody's says it's worried about hp ability to compete as well as numerous execution challenges. and apple is winning in the netherland. a dutch court banned sale of some gal yachlsy product that's allegedly infringe on the apple photo navigation patents. the ban only applying to older products that don't run on updated photo galleries but samsung still going to have to pay apple $129,000 for every day it violates the ruling. a check in on how stocks are tra
and talk about the big issues on the other side in 2013. >> first, no one wants to go off this fiscal cliff. that would be a self-imposed damage to our economy. number two, the next step is the enactment of the bill that's in the house, dealing with the tax relief for all income below $250,000, providing the revenue base to have that type of confidence and discussions between the two sides. the next step let's get that bill passed. i'd like to see us go further before the lame duck is over and be able to have a framework in place to get additional deficit reduction. >> you were part of this emotional appearance from bob dole on the floor yesterday voicing his support for the u.n. disability treaty yet even his presence there and the emotional images as we see him on the floor there in a wheelchair was not enough to get some republicans to vote for it. senator kerry calling it the saddest day he's seen in decades. the measure failed. what is your reaction to that and what is the excuse to the american people? >> i am a member of the senate foreign relations committee, we added to the treaty
's top republican laughing out loud at the white house proposal to avert the fiscal cliff. >> i don't know much about the government. is that a good sign if they make a proposal? >> when you do that to me, i know you're not taking me seriously, right? >> sometimes getting really stupid offers, also not polite. >>> plus, an update on the condition of the former president george h.w. bush. he had a health scare in houston yesterday. we're going to tell you how he's doing this morning. >>> but first let's get to the news live at 5:30 here at 30 rock in new york city. this morning, president obama departs to pennsylvania where he will continue his campaign sales pitch on how to solve the country's fiscal challenges. yesterday treasury secretary tim geithner met with republicans to unveil the white house's budget proposal which includes $1.6 trillion in new tax revenue over ten years as well as $50 billion in additional stimulus spending. with limited details on spending cuts, the gop's reaction, less than encouraging. senator mitch mcconnell reportedly burst into laughter while geithner
on the impending fiscal cliff. today, president obama meets with mitt romney for a private lunch at the white house. and treasury secretary tim geithner will hold talks with congressional leaders about reducing the deficit while keeping the economy growing - a lot of input being gathered on how to resolve the inevitable. president obama met with his cabinet wednesday for the first time since his re-election. but otherwise, his schedule has been filled with business leaders and resolving the fiscal crisis sooner rather than later. "families need confidence to go out and spend going into christmas." tuesday, leaders from small business gave their views. "i said the more people have money in their pocket, the more they'll spend and we'll do better." "i suggested raising the minimum wage, tying it to an inflation index, and national leadership in online retail taxes." and there's a concerted public effort: the white house website features an appeal to "speak out to keep taxes from going up on the middle class." "if congress does nothing, taxes up $2200." that $2200 morphed into a white house twitter ca
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